Posts: 23,935
Threads: 718
Likes Received: 25,085 in 15,128 posts
Likes Given: 15,544
Joined: Jul 2012
Announcements/RE: Beta Testers Wanted: Grid Schedules
09-21-2015, 01:15 PM
I checked Year 2, Year 4, Year 6, and Year 9, downloading as .docx files (for Word). The formatting seems to be coming through beautifully, even when cells are merged.
The computer I'm using right now doesn't have Open Office installed. I want to look more closely at the formatting troubles when downloading in that format. What I saw looked pretty easy to fix, so that we could possibly just post some simple instructions, but I want to be sure I wasn't missing some more complicated problems. Some schedules have quite a bit of merging of cells.
Kathy
For we are God’s handiwork, recreated in Christ Jesus, that we may do those good works which God predestined for us, that we should walk in them.
Posts: 9,123
Threads: 159
Likes Received: 15,015 in 6,008 posts
Likes Given: 1,225
Joined: Aug 2012
Announcements/Beta Testers Wanted: Grid Schedules
09-21-2015, 10:15 PM
Once it was in .odt the pages were slightly too long because the top line was no longer merged. And then all of the free rewards were messed up because those cells were unmerged.
That's all I noticed, because at that point I gave up in frustration. For me, the whole point of the grid schedules is that I don't have to do that kind of formatting. I just make a few quick a scheduling changes, print and go.
I know you're trying to make things simpler on the admin side, but it may just be moving that time to the user side snd multiplying it times hundreds or thousands of people.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Mary Frances
mom to David (Age 18, YR12), Grant (Age 15, YR9) and Lucy (Age 14, YR9) and Ella (Age 7, YR 2)
Posts: 23,935
Threads: 718
Likes Received: 25,085 in 15,128 posts
Likes Given: 15,544
Joined: Jul 2012
Announcements/RE: Beta Testers Wanted: Grid Schedules
09-22-2015, 10:00 AM
I'm sorry. What are "free rewards"?
Are you using the .odt because you are editing it? Do you have a Google Drive account? (You can edit the charts directly in Google Drive *if* you are logged in. You just copy them to your own account.)
You can print the file directly from Google (without logging in) if you are not editing it. I didn't work hard to keep the charts on properly paginated because that requires some editing that makes them harder to read and use; if people often just print them as-is, I can be more intentional about making them fit.
Do you currently just download the .odt and print it without any changes?
Knowing more about how most people use these charts helps me make a solution that works for everyone. This proposed change isn't even mostly about what's convenient for me. I think many of our users probably would like to have the charts in Google because it's so much easier to access them on various devices, but I can't know that unless I hear from you, nor can I know who is using them in other ways without hearing, so I appreciate all the feedback.
Kathy
For we are God’s handiwork, recreated in Christ Jesus, that we may do those good works which God predestined for us, that we should walk in them.
Posts: 4,454
Threads: 292
Likes Received: 4,594 in 1,832 posts
Likes Given: 536
Joined: Aug 2012
Announcements/RE: Beta Testers Wanted: Grid Schedules
09-22-2015, 10:43 AM
I think their auto correct fixed 'free reads'.....
I haven't tried the new locations.... but as to how I use the existinv files....
I get the word version, and then do a lit of editing to Canadianize it....
AO - Canadian Style - Maplehill Academy
Delta 15-other; Echo 12-other; Foxtrot 10-yr4; Golf 8-yr1
"My Dear, much of the work in this world is done by people who don't feel so very well." - Karen Andreola
Posts: 5,260
Threads: 177
Likes Received: 6,605 in 3,393 posts
Likes Given: 17,402
Joined: Jul 2012
Announcements/RE: Beta Testers Wanted: Grid Schedules
09-22-2015, 11:15 AM
(09-22-2015, 10:00 AM)lklivingston Wrote: I'm sorry. What are "free rewards"?
Free reads - pretty sure it is an auto-correct word thing.
Posts: 23,935
Threads: 718
Likes Received: 25,085 in 15,128 posts
Likes Given: 15,544
Joined: Jul 2012
Announcements/RE: Beta Testers Wanted: Grid Schedules
09-22-2015, 11:17 AM
Thanks! I don't know why that didn't occur to me.
Kathy
For we are God’s handiwork, recreated in Christ Jesus, that we may do those good works which God predestined for us, that we should walk in them.
Posts: 346
Threads: 14
Likes Received: 332 in 202 posts
Likes Given: 15
Joined: Aug 2012
Announcements/RE: Beta Testers Wanted: Grid Schedules
09-22-2015, 01:48 PM
I edit the schedules to suite our needs. That definitely needs to be a possibility.
Thanks,
Terri in TX
Posts: 9,387
Threads: 641
Likes Received: 10,463 in 4,769 posts
Likes Given: 10,261
Joined: Sep 2012
Announcements/RE: Beta Testers Wanted: Grid Schedules
09-22-2015, 02:17 PM
Tried the regular Year 4 - internet is slightly slow tonight, took a minute or two to load, and another 1-2 minutes to copy over, and further lag (below)
* Can't edit at your link
* Copied, could edit but annoyingly slow (delay even in hitting a letter) -- I consider this unusable
* Had to open or save as a PDF (which I can then print)
* Not lined up - on page one the *notes have bumped to two, there is a blank page after term 2 and term 3's final table is split over two pages, 8 pages total.
Downloaded as an ODT, using Open Office Writer: ALL the merges are gone, including the header row of each table. The file is 11 pages. I could fix this very easily, however I might have to flip between the ODT and the PDF to do it properly. I think many would have difficulty, especially if they were on a smaller device.
Downloaded as DOCX using Open Office Writer: Looks identical to the one on Google docs, same page issue, which I fixed by removing the blank line(s) at the top of the page, above the tables.
I'm running Firefox in Ubuntu Linux on a desktop computer. HTH! I don't envy your formatting woes at all and I appreciate the chart schedules many, many times a year. Thank you for providing them!
Amy, who wishes to be a hobbit ![:) :)](https://amblesideonline.org/forum/images/smilies/smiley.gif)
Two homeschool graduates ( DS20, DS19)
Currently homeschooling ( DS16, DD13)
Posts: 4,917
Threads: 267
Likes Received: 5,153 in 3,049 posts
Likes Given: 7,672
Joined: Aug 2012
Announcements/RE: Beta Testers Wanted: Grid Schedules
09-22-2015, 02:53 PM
(09-22-2015, 02:17 PM)Amy Jo Wrote: Downloaded as an ODT, using Open Office Writer: ALL the merges are gone, including the header row of each table. The file is 11 pages. I could fix this very easily, however I might have to flip between the ODT and the PDF to do it properly. I think many would have difficulty, especially if they were on a smaller device.
I agree with this. I just tried downloading Year 4 and opening it in LibreOffice.
Loosing the merged cells when readings are spread over multiple weeks looks confusing.
Also, in LibreOffice, some rows are splitting across pages, so I'm seeing things like "Rip Van" at the bottom of one page and "Winkle" on the top of the next.
I do enough cutting/pasting/editing with our schedules that these errors don't bother me much. As downloaded, it is not a pretty document, but I do very much appreciate the ability to edit on my own computer and not "in the cloud."
Emily in Central WA
Mom to 4 boys (17yo, 16yo, 14yo, 9yo) and 2 little girls (11yo, 7yo)
AO Years 12, 11, 9, 6, 4 and 2
Posts: 5,260
Threads: 177
Likes Received: 6,605 in 3,393 posts
Likes Given: 17,402
Joined: Jul 2012
Announcements/RE: Beta Testers Wanted: Grid Schedules
09-22-2015, 02:59 PM
(09-22-2015, 02:17 PM)Amy Jo Wrote: Downloaded as an ODT, using Open Office Writer: ALL the merges are gone, including the header row of each table. The file is 11 pages. I could fix this very easily, however I might have to flip between the ODT and the PDF to do it properly. I think many would have difficulty, especially if they were on a smaller device.
Kathy, I had these same issues for Year 4 file as above. I could fix it (several different merge fixes to get things back on their proper pages) but for those who do not mess with formatting all the time, it would be an issue.
This was using Firefox as my browser, otherwise everything else in Amy Jo's description above matches mine.
|